How to convert FLAC to Apple Lossless (ALAC)?

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stevensapvdbug
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How to convert FLAC to Apple Lossless (ALAC)?

Post by stevensapvdbug » Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:26 am

Hi
I'm sure this has come up before, but I don't see ALAC as an output option. How do I convert FLAC files to ALAC using Max?

Thanks for your help.

S

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Re: How to convert FLAC to Apple Lossless (ALAC)?

Post by Mike1 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:14 am

stevensapvdbug wrote:Hi
I'm sure this has come up before, but I don't see ALAC as an output option. How do I convert FLAC files to ALAC using Max?
It comes under MPEG4 Audio - I suppose because Apple Lossless is in an MP4 container.

Open the Preferences. Go to "Formats". Scroll down the list to MPEG4 Audio. There are two entries for that: you want the top one. Double-click that and a sheet drops down. Select "Apple Lossless" and click "OK". That now appears as an option for output in the table at the top of the "Formats" tab in the "Preferences" window. Make sure the box next to it is checked.

Select "Convert Files..." off the "File" menu to do the conversion.

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Re: How to convert FLAC to Apple Lossless (ALAC)?

Post by stevensapvdbug » Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:42 pm

Aha! I'll give this a try and report back. In the meantime, many thanks.
S

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Re: How to convert FLAC to Apple Lossless (ALAC)?

Post by bobthebob » Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:30 am

ahhh... this was driving me crazy! - nothing about this in the included help files btw - heads up, this should be more obvious...
cheers,
b

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Re: How to convert FLAC to Apple Lossless (ALAC)?

Post by DavidL » Tue May 19, 2009 3:39 pm

This does not seem to work for 24bit/192kHz audio.
I converted a 24/192 FLAC file to Apple Lossless using the MPEG4 option. This generated a file more than 2x the size! [An ALAC file generated using the iTunes converter for the AIFF file corresponding to this FLAC file is roughy the same size as the FLAC file.]

I then tried to convert this file back to FLAC but Max would not accept it.

I've found other programs having problems recognising 24/192 ALAC files. I've seen it suggested elsewhere that using the file extension".m4a" can cause confusion in conversion as the file is picked up as being lossly compressed.

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Re: How to convert FLAC to Apple Lossless (ALAC)?

Post by sbooth » Tue May 19, 2009 4:20 pm

I think I've fixed these bugs since the 0.8.1 release- I just tested a 24/192 WAV -> FLAC -> ALAC conversion and everything worked fine with the development version I'm using. I will post a new unstable build later today for testing.

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Re: How to convert FLAC to Apple Lossless (ALAC)?

Post by buckleyp0 » Tue May 19, 2009 7:54 pm

I was referred here after downloading a FLAC file from the Linn website.

I found the option to convert to apple lossless OK, but after conversion it just crashes...

the log is copied below.

any ideas?

thanks,
Paul

Date/Time: 2009-05-19 20:47:00.136 +0100
OS Version: 10.4.11 (Build 8S2167)
Report Version: 4

Command: Max
Path: /Applications/Utilities/Max-0.8.1/Max.app/Contents/MacOS/Max
Parent: WindowServer [102]

Version: ??? (0.8.1)

PID: 1195
Thread: 8

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x0f2ea002

Thread 0:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90009817 mach_msg_trap + 7
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9082d227 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 2014
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9082ca42 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 61
3 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92e01878 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 285
4 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92e00f82 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 385
5 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92e00dd9 BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode + 81
6 com.apple.AppKit 0x93286f45 _DPSNextEvent + 572
7 com.apple.AppKit 0x93286b37 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 137
8 com.apple.AppKit 0x932808c4 -[NSApplication run] + 512
9 com.apple.AppKit 0x93274820 NSApplicationMain + 573
10 org.sbooth.Max 0x0000291b _start + 209
11 org.sbooth.Max 0x00002849 start + 41

Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90009817 mach_msg_trap + 7
1 com.unsanity.ape 0x0072fd12 __ape_agent + 307
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d67 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90009817 mach_msg_trap + 7
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9082d227 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 2014
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9082ca42 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 61
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x9283839c +[NSURLConnection(NSURLConnectionInternal) _resourceLoadLoop:] + 259
4 com.apple.Foundation 0x92802cfc forkThreadForFunction + 123
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d67 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90019d0c select + 12
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d67 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 4:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90009817 mach_msg_trap + 7
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9082d227 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 2014
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9082ca42 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 61
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x9285f5da +[NSURLCache _diskCacheSyncLoop:] + 206
4 com.apple.Foundation 0x92802cfc forkThreadForFunction + 123
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d67 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 5:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002689c kevent + 12
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90cb8d08 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 51
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d67 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 6:
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1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90cb8eae MPWaitOnQueue + 198
2 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x92728943 TNodeSyncTask::SyncTaskProc(void*) + 143
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90cb8d08 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 51
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d67 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 7:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024407 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 7
1 com.apple.Foundation 0x92858c60 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:] + 39
2 com.apple.AppKit 0x9335dcb4 -[NSUIHeartBeat _heartBeatThread:] + 377
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x92802cfc forkThreadForFunction + 123
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d67 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 8 Crashed:
0 ...ple.audio.codecs.Components 0x0f0f166c mix24 + 124
1 ...ple.audio.codecs.Components 0x0f0f51ae ACAppleLosslessEncoder::EncodeStereo(BitBuffer*, void*, unsigned long, unsigned long, unsigned long) + 3064
2 ...ple.audio.codecs.Components 0x0f0f5fd7 ACAppleLosslessEncoder::ProduceOutputPackets(void*, unsigned long&, unsigned long&, AudioStreamPacketDescription*) + 1235
3 ...ple.audio.codecs.Components 0x0f1b832f long ACCodecDispatch<ACAppleLosslessEncoder>(ComponentParameters*, ACAppleLosslessEncoder*) + 763
4 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90cd07fc CallComponentDispatch + 34
5 ...apple.audio.units.AudioUnit 0x93e57bcc AudioCodecProduceOutputPackets + 67
6 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93dbdb6f CodecConverter::EncoderFillBuffer(unsigned long&, AudioBufferList&, AudioStreamPacketDescription*) + 889
7 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93d63c01 AudioConverterChain::RenderOutput(CABufferList*, unsigned long, unsigned long&, AudioStreamPacketDescription*) + 93
8 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93d63a73 BufferedAudioConverter::FillBuffer(unsigned long&, AudioBufferList&, AudioStreamPacketDescription*) + 211
9 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93d63900 AudioConverterFillComplexBuffer + 190
10 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93de0c99 ExtAudioFile::WritePacketsFromCallback(long (*)(OpaqueAudioConverter*, unsigned long*, AudioBufferList*, AudioStreamPacketDescription**, void*), void*) + 137
11 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93de0e75 ExtAudioFile::FlushEncoder() + 53
12 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93de17ea ExtAudioFile::Close() + 562
13 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93de1917 ExtAudioFile::~ExtAudioFile [not-in-charge]() + 33
14 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93dfaf7c XExtAudioFile::~XExtAudioFile [in-charge deleting]() + 80
15 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93dd5f8e ExtAudioFileDispose + 80
16 org.sbooth.Max 0x0004e8ce -[CoreAudioEncoder encodeToFile:] + 6902
17 libobjc.A.dylib 0x90a5cc56 objc_msgSendv + 54
18 com.apple.Foundation 0x92809d82 -[NSInvocation invoke] + 932
19 com.apple.Foundation 0x928570b7 -[NSConnection dispatchInvocation:] + 487
20 com.apple.Foundation 0x928554b9 -[NSConnection handleRequest:sequence:] + 1273
21 com.apple.Foundation 0x92854d16 -[NSConnection handlePortCoder:] + 922
22 com.apple.Foundation 0x92854957 -[NSConcretePortCoder dispatch] + 188
23 com.apple.Foundation 0x928543b4 __NSFireMachPort + 307
24 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9083d2fd __CFMachPortPerform + 136
25 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9082d5a1 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 2904
26 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9082ca42 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 61
27 com.apple.Foundation 0x92852179 -[NSConnection sendInvocation:] + 2126
28 com.apple.Foundation 0x92808e38 -[NSObject(NSForwardInvocation) forward::] + 469
29 libobjc.A.dylib 0x90a5cba1 _objc_msgForward + 49
30 org.sbooth.Max 0x00003173 +[Encoder connectWithPorts:] + 473
31 com.apple.Foundation 0x92802cfc forkThreadForFunction + 123
32 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d67 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 8 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x0f2f1000 ebx: 0x0f0f5b12 ecx: 0x0000105f edx: 0xfffff600
edi: 0x00004000 esi: 0x0f2ea000 ebp: 0xb04339d8 esp: 0xb0433994
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010293 eip: 0x0f0f166c cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037

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ye
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Re: How to convert FLAC to Apple Lossless (ALAC)?

Post by ye » Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:55 pm

DavidL wrote:This does not seem to work for 24bit/192kHz audio.
I converted a 24/192 FLAC file to Apple Lossless using the MPEG4 option. This generated a file more than 2x the size! [An ALAC file generated using the iTunes converter for the AIFF file corresponding to this FLAC file is roughy the same size as the FLAC file.]

I then tried to convert this file back to FLAC but Max would not accept it.
Same problem with the size for me. I started from one of the Linn 24/192 FLAC. The produced ALAC is recognized as 24/192 by iTunes but when played I get only distortions.

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Re: How to convert FLAC to Apple Lossless (ALAC)?

Post by Bustamante » Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:45 am

stevensapvdbug wrote:Hi
I'm sure this has come up before, but I don't see ALAC as an output option. How do I convert FLAC files to ALAC using Max?

Thanks for your help.

S
ahhh... this was driving me crazy! - nothing about this in the included help files btw - heads up, this should be more obvious...
cheers,

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