First Impression

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elduderino
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First Impression

Post by elduderino » Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:16 am

OK, so I started in on my library CD's...Bob Dylan Modern Times was first up...wouldn't complete, kept getting stuck on the last song it seems...it tried to rescan blocks for a long long time (nearly 1 hour), whilst Rip got up to using about 250% of CPU on my 8 core mac pro. Then, ultimately, it just crashed out and closed itself with the following console log:


12/3/08 11:08:27 PM Rip[36242] Sectors needing verification: <NSMutableIndexSet: 0x80085f300>[number of indexes: 634 (in 373 ranges), indexes: (251906 255195-255196 255426-255427 255581 258850-258851 259724 259840-259841 259860 259957 259976-259977 259996 260015-260016 260073-260074 260112-260113 260151-260152 260171 260190-260191 260229-260230 260248-260249 260268 260287-260288 260306-260307 260346 260384-260385 260404 260423-260424 260443 260462-260463 260481-260482 260501-260502 260520-260521 260540-260541 260559-260560 260579 260598-260599 260618 260637-260638 260656-260657 260676-260677 260695-260696 260715-260716 260734-260735 260754 260773-260774 260793 260812-260813 260832 260851-260852 260870-260871 260890-260891 260910 260929-260930 260948-260949 260968 260987-260988 261006-261007 261026-261027 261045-261046 261065-261066 261084-261085 261104-261105 261124 261143-261144 261162-261163 261182-261183 261201-261202 261221 261240-261241 261260 261279-261280 261298-261299 261318-261319 261357-261358 261377 261396-261397 261415-261416 261435-261436 261454-261455 261474-261475 261493-261494 261513-261514 261532-261533 261552 261571-261572 261591 261610-261611 261629-261630 261649-261650 261668-261669 261688-261689 261707-261708 261727-261728 261746-261747 261766-261767 261786 261805-261806 261824-261825 261844-261845 261863-261864 261883-261884 261902-261903 261922-261923 261941-261942 261961-261962 261980-261981 262000-262001 262019-262020 262039-262040 262058-262059 262078 262097-262098 262117 262136-262137 262156 262175-262176 262195 262214-262215 262234 262253-262254 262273 262292-262293 262312 262331-262332 262351 262370-262371 262390 262409-262410 262428-262429 262448-262449 262467-262468 262487-262488 262507 262526-262527 262546 262565-262566 262585 262604-262605 262624 262643-262644 262663 262702 262721-262722 262741 262760-262761 262780-262781 262799-262800 262819 262838-262839 262858-262859 262897-262898 262936-262937 262975-262976 262995 263014-263015 263053-263054 263112 263190 263209-263210 263229 263268 263307 263365-263366 263404-263405 263424-263425 263443-263444 263463-263464 263482-263483 263502-263503 263521-263522 263541-263542 263580-263581 263600 263639 263678-263679 263697-263698 263736-263737 263756-263757 263775-263776 263814-263815 263854 263873-263874 263893 263971-263972 263990-263991 264108 264225-264226 264244-264245 264851-264852 267537-267538 267557-267558 267596-267597 267636 267655-267656 267675-267676 267695 267734-267735 267754 267773-267774 267793-267794 267813 267832-267833 267852-267853 267872 267891-267892 267911-267912 267931 267950-267951 267990 268009-268010 268029-268030 268049 268068-268069 268088-268089 268108 268127-268128 268147-268148 268167 268186-268187 268206-268207 268226 268245-268246 268265-268266 268285 268304-268305 268324-268325 268344 268363-268364 268383-268384 268403 268422-268423 268442-268443 268462 268481-268482 268501-268502 268521 268540-268541 268560-268561 268580 268599-268600 268619-268620 268639 268658-268659 268678-268679 268698 268717-268718 268737-268738 268757-268758 268777 268796-268797 268816-268817 268836 268855-268856 268875-268876 268895 268914-268915 268934-268935 268954 268973-268974 268993-268994 269013 269032-269033 269052-269053 269072-269073 269092 269111-269112 269131-269132 269151 269170-269171 269190-269191 269210 269229-269230 269249-269250 269269-269270 269289 269308-269309 269328-269329 269348 269367-269368 269387-269388 269407 269426-269427 269446-269447 269466-269467 269486 269525-269526 269545 269564-269565 269584-269585 269604 269624 269643-269644 269663-269664 269683 269702-269703 269722-269723 269761-269762 269781-269782 269801-269802 269821 269840-269841 269860-269861 269880 269900 269919-269920 269939-269940 269959 269978-269979 269998-269999 270018 270038 270057-270058 270097 270116-270117 270136-270137 270156-270157 270176 270195-270196 270215-270216 270235 270255 270274-270275 270294-270295 270314 270333-270334 270353-270354 270373-270374 270393 270412-270413 270432-270433 270452-270453 270472 270491-270492 270511-270512 270531 270551 270570-270571 270590-270591 270610 270629-270630 270649-270650 270669-270670 270689 270708-270709 270728-270729 270748-270749 270768 270787-270788 270807-270808 270827-270828 270847 270866-270867 270886-270887 270906-270907 270985-270986 271005 271024-271025 271044-271045 271084 271103-271104 271261-271262 271281-271282 271321 271340-271341 271380-271381 271439-271440 271518-271519 271617-271618 271696-271697 271775-271776 277832-277833 278591 282295 282335-282336)]
12/3/08 11:08:27 PM Rip[36242] An uncaught exception was raised

12/3/08 11:08:27 PM Rip[36242] *** Collection <NSCFArray: 0x80085f280> was mutated while being enumerated.
12/3/08 11:08:27 PM Rip[36242] *** Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'NSGenericException', reason: '*** Collection <NSCFArray: 0x80085f280> was mutated while being enumerated.'
12/3/08 11:08:27 PM Rip[36242] Stack: (
4306459932,
4303988943,
4306456860,
4295234656,
4295227861,
4295214905,
4325783512,
4326361870,
4302066961,
4302066649
)
12/3/08 11:08:27 PM [0x0-0x1a31a3].org.sbooth.Rip[36242] terminate called after throwing an instance of 'NSException'
12/3/08 11:08:32 PM com.apple.launchd[206] ([0x0-0x1a31a3].org.sbooth.Rip[36242]) Exited abnormally: Abort trap
12/3/08 11:08:32 PM com.apple.coreservicesd[87] NOTE: Using non-mach-based version of client -> server communication, via direct function calls.
12/3/08 11:08:32 PM com.apple.coreservicesd[87] NOTE: Using non-mach-based version of client -> server communication, via direct function calls.

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Re: First Impression

Post by elduderino » Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:37 am

By the way, where do the FLAC files end up, I chose a specific directory to save them in, but they are not there, only the log file is there....I was succesful now with a different Jakob Dylan CD, but can't find the flac files! I just put the CD in and hit Copy Tracks...am I doing something wrong?

Sorry for the dumb question, just not seeing what's going on here...but here is the console log output:

12/3/08 11:22:37 PM Rip[37368] Extracted sectors 0 - 17758 to 3991cfa1.wav, 0 C2 block errors. MD5 = e246e9379592b159ff05c42e5c47c643
12/3/08 11:22:37 PM Rip[37368] Using alternate AccurateRip pressing
12/3/08 11:22:38 PM Rip[37368] Encoding /var/folders/oO/oOT7V9MdG5mhnqzPgHMi9E+++TM/-Tmp-/102ab664.wav to /Volumes/Data/Music/RipBeta/Jakob Dylan/Seeing Things/01 Evil Is Alive And Well.flac using FLAC
12/3/08 11:22:38 PM Rip[37368] Beginning extraction for track 2
12/3/08 11:22:58 PM Rip[37368] Extracted sectors 17755 - 35578 to 71f69dd2.wav, 0 C2 block errors. MD5 = 3a0a78a990837249d0118188790dc740
12/3/08 11:23:17 PM Rip[37368] Extracted sectors 17755 - 35578 to 5aa50d25.wav, 0 C2 block errors. MD5 = 3a0a78a990837249d0118188790dc740
12/3/08 11:23:18 PM Rip[37368] Encoding /var/folders/oO/oOT7V9MdG5mhnqzPgHMi9E+++TM/-Tmp-/32cdbb35.wav to /Volumes/Data/Music/RipBeta/Jakob Dylan/Seeing Things/02 Valley Of The Low Sun.flac using FLAC
12/3/08 11:23:18 PM Rip[37368] Beginning extraction for track 3
12/3/08 11:23:34 PM Rip[37368] Extracted sectors 35575 - 51178 to 1a5ee2dc.wav, 0 C2 block errors. MD5 = 26eabc86e6e74e80ee1a48fd304ca07e
12/3/08 11:23:50 PM Rip[37368] Extracted sectors 35575 - 51178 to 47155f17.wav, 0 C2 block errors. MD5 = 26eabc86e6e74e80ee1a48fd304ca07e
12/3/08 11:23:51 PM Rip[37368] Encoding /var/folders/oO/oOT7V9MdG5mhnqzPgHMi9E+++TM/-Tmp-/4468e72a.wav to /Volumes/Data/Music/RipBeta/Jakob Dylan/Seeing Things/03 All Day And All Night.flac using FLAC
12/3/08 11:23:51 PM Rip[37368] Beginning extraction for track 4
12/3/08 11:24:04 PM Rip[37368] Extracted sectors 51175 - 64731 to 2786bd51.wav, 0 C2 block errors. MD5 = 56181c98e6c9d78672b5bfdcbb62b692
12/3/08 11:24:18 PM Rip[37368] Extracted sectors 51175 - 64731 to 60d1f68a.wav, 0 C2 block errors. MD5 = 56181c98e6c9d78672b5bfdcbb62b692
12/3/08 11:24:19 PM Rip[37368] Encoding /var/folders/oO/oOT7V9MdG5mhnqzPgHMi9E+++TM/-Tmp-/7236f5e1.wav to /Volumes/Data/Music/RipBeta/Jakob Dylan/Seeing Things/04 Everybody Pays As They Go.flac using FLAC
12/3/08 11:24:19 PM Rip[37368] Beginning extraction for track 5
12/3/08 11:24:38 PM Rip[37368] Extracted sectors 64728 - 86438 to 24cbae0b.wav, 0 C2 block errors. MD5 = 0e6f2ca75225075bdd66d9cc24b4920c
12/3/08 11:24:58 PM Rip[37368] Extracted sectors 64728 - 86438 to 536b693e.wav, 0 C2 block errors. MD5 = 0e6f2ca75225075bdd66d9cc24b4920c
12/3/08 11:24:59 PM Rip[37368] Encoding /var/folders/oO/oOT7V9MdG5mhnqzPgHMi9E+++TM/-Tmp-/43bf781f.wav to /Volumes/Data/Music/RipBeta/Jakob Dylan/Seeing Things/05 Will It Grow.flac using FLAC
12/3/08 11:25:00 PM Rip[37368] Beginning extraction for track 6
12/3/08 11:25:16 PM Rip[37368] Extracted sectors 86435 - 105548 to 7c8e0617.wav, 0 C2 block errors. MD5 = 2641070f4d63539cfc9066b678a1f09b
12/3/08 11:25:33 PM Rip[37368] Extracted sectors 86435 - 105548 to d76f21d.wav, 0 C2 block errors. MD5 = 2641070f4d63539cfc9066b678a1f09b
12/3/08 11:25:34 PM Rip[37368] Encoding /var/folders/oO/oOT7V9MdG5mhnqzPgHMi9E+++TM/-Tmp-/4c2fa4e3.wav to /Volumes/Data/Music/RipBeta/Jakob Dylan/Seeing Things/06 I Told You I Couldn't Stop.flac using FLAC
12/3/08 11:25:34 PM Rip[37368] Beginning extraction for track 7
12/3/08 11:25:45 PM Rip[37368] Extracted sectors 105545 - 119708 to 696af96c.wav, 0 C2 block errors. MD5 = 9ed0b987da5932bcd55ee9b53eeea536
12/3/08 11:25:57 PM Rip[37368] Extracted sectors 105545 - 119708 to 21eb8087.wav, 0 C2 block errors. MD5 = 9ed0b987da5932bcd55ee9b53eeea536
12/3/08 11:25:58 PM Rip[37368] Encoding /var/folders/oO/oOT7V9MdG5mhnqzPgHMi9E+++TM/-Tmp-/2ff6eb49.wav to /Volumes/Data/Music/RipBeta/Jakob Dylan/Seeing Things/07 War Is Kind.flac using FLAC
12/3/08 11:25:58 PM Rip[37368] Beginning extraction for track 8
12/3/08 11:26:11 PM Rip[37368] Extracted sectors 119705 - 136141 to 5289fa3e.wav, 0 C2 block errors. MD5 = e2d533e3238dc29f7c74f0c286e5dfbc
12/3/08 11:26:11 PM Rip[37368] Using alternate AccurateRip pressing
12/3/08 11:26:24 PM Rip[37368] Extracted sectors 119705 - 136141 to 3a4b7349.wav, 0 C2 block errors. MD5 = e2d533e3238dc29f7c74f0c286e5dfbc
12/3/08 11:26:25 PM Rip[37368] Using alternate AccurateRip pressing
12/3/08 11:26:25 PM Rip[37368] Encoding /var/folders/oO/oOT7V9MdG5mhnqzPgHMi9E+++TM/-Tmp-/27da9089.wav to /Volumes/Data/Music/RipBeta/Jakob Dylan/Seeing Things/08 Something Good This Way Comes.flac using FLAC
12/3/08 11:26:25 PM Rip[37368] Beginning extraction for track 9
12/3/08 11:26:38 PM Rip[37368] Extracted sectors 136138 - 153046 to 27312e8f.wav, 0 C2 block errors. MD5 = 3ac1a1b22d24f1d0751f5d974ac72077
12/3/08 11:26:51 PM Rip[37368] Extracted sectors 136138 - 153046 to 61c6762c.wav, 0 C2 block errors. MD5 = 3ac1a1b22d24f1d0751f5d974ac72077
12/3/08 11:26:52 PM Rip[37368] Encoding /var/folders/oO/oOT7V9MdG5mhnqzPgHMi9E+++TM/-Tmp-/202148b7.wav to /Volumes/Data/Music/RipBeta/Jakob Dylan/Seeing Things/09 On Up The Mountain.flac using FLAC
12/3/08 11:26:52 PM Rip[37368] Beginning extraction for track 10
12/3/08 11:27:05 PM Rip[37368] Extracted sectors 153043 - 171024 to 4c618a5e.wav, 0 C2 block errors. MD5 = 020938c167431b6e014073fb6df79ef5
12/3/08 11:27:06 PM Rip[37368] Using alternate AccurateRip pressing
12/3/08 11:27:19 PM Rip[37368] Extracted sectors 153043 - 171024 to 630927d.wav, 0 C2 block errors. MD5 = 020938c167431b6e014073fb6df79ef5
12/3/08 11:27:19 PM Rip[37368] Using alternate AccurateRip pressing
12/3/08 11:27:20 PM Rip[37368] Encoding /var/folders/oO/oOT7V9MdG5mhnqzPgHMi9E+++TM/-Tmp-/527be205.wav to /Volumes/Data/Music/RipBeta/Jakob Dylan/Seeing Things/10 This End Of The Telescope.flac using FLAC
12/3/08 11:27:21 PM Rip[37368] *** +[NSCFDictionary cancelUserAttentionRequest:]: unrecognized selector sent to class 0x10203b480
12/3/08 11:27:21 PM Rip[37368] *** +[NSCFDictionary cancelUserAttentionRequest:]: unrecognized selector sent to class 0x10203b480
12/3/08 11:27:21 PM Rip[37368] [<FLACPostProcessingOperation 0x800731980> valueForUndefinedKey:]: this class is not key value coding-compliant for the key outputURL.

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Re: First Impression

Post by sbooth » Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:56 am

You're not doing anything wrong. Does the folder /Volumes/Data/Music/RipBeta/Jakob Dylan/Seeing Things exist?

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Re: First Impression

Post by elduderino » Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:51 pm

Yes, the folder exists, but the only thing in there is the seeingthings.log log file....no music to be found anywhere...by the way, I should remind you that I'm running the Universal binary that you pointed me to, not the normal build...i am going to try removing the software completely, then loading the new version you just posted, and go from there...i'll let you know.

Also, couple other things...

1. I really really really need to have the output file structure available like it was in Max - I always rip in 2 formats FLAC and 320kbps MP3, and the multiple output capability is the best part of Max. Can we preserve that capabilitiy in RIP? By the way, is there a reason that MP3 is not even an option in the encoding menu? Flac by itself won't cut it for me, I really want simultaneous encoding of both. I know I could just go back and encode the FLAC's to Mp3's, but that is double the effort when a person is ripping gobloads of discs.

2. I really need the "iTunes compatibility" option like Max had too....my goal is just like my usage of Max, so that upon completion of the rip/encode, the MP3's are immediately in my iTunes folder and data structure. I can describe it more if you'd like, but this was working perfectly in Max, I'd like to see it in Rip too.

That's about it, I do love that I don't have to run the GraceDB script anymore, that Rip is able to pull the metadata in from iTunes, as long as iTunes has already recognized the disc. That is SOOOO huge, and will save me a ton of time off ripping. If we can nail these other items that are adding to the time in-efficiencies, we can truly be faster process-wise than Max ever allowed one to be.

Thanks Stephen.
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Re: First Impression

Post by mathom » Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:32 pm

So here is my first impression:
I've tested Rip on an iMac C2D and ripped to Apple Lossless.

Rip works great for being pb2. I really like the way it works. Below a two points to mention:

Ripping
Like other people wrote, Rip slowed down my system in 64-Bit mode. Could it have something to do with the memory usage?
32-Bit mode: real = 13 MB virtual = 952 MB
64-Bit mode: real = 26 MB virtual = 34 GB (!)

After ripping the first track, the amount of free memory (RAM) decreases from about 600 MB to 10 MB and everything slows down.
In 32-Bit mode everything works fine.

Since I'm usually rippping a complete CD, I'd like to see a menu button "Copy All Tracks" or at least a shortcut for "Select All Tracks".

Eject
The eject CD command never works for me. Rip only gives me this error message: "Operation could not be completed. (Mach error 49168 -
(os/unix) mount device busy)". The CD disappears from the finder but won't be ejected. There's no console log.

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Re: First Impression

Post by Fuga » Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:56 pm

You can select all from the menu bar dropdown for "Compact Disc." Still, a toolbar button would be nice.

Add the eject toolbar button by choosing "View" in the menu bar and dropping to Customize Toolbar. Alternately hold down option and command while clicking in the little horizontal oval in the upper right of Rip's window.

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Re: First Impression

Post by mathom » Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:43 pm

@ Fuga

Thanks for replying. My only problem with the eject function is, that it doesn't work for me. I've tried the toolbar button and the menu command.
But both give me the error message (see two posts above).

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Re: First Impression

Post by Fuga » Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:22 pm

I've tried about 10 CDs and there was one in the first batch that wouldn't eject by any method. See about midway in that thread's first post.

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Re: First Impression

Post by kickbackpunk » Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:12 pm

Okay started with Rip PB2 today on a iMac C2D 2 GB's Ram, ripping Creed-My Own Prison via FLAC, So far no issues to speak of. the ripping process went very smooth and I like how it autochecked with accuraterip, the output file was place correctly in the folder I designated and the quality of the file was excellent. Also should be noted is that I am using an external iomega cd-rw via usb as the ripping drive. I am going to test over the next few days over 100 cd's both using the external and internal cd drives as well as wav and ALAC. One suggestion I have is for a menu to allow me to slow the ripping down to a particular speed such as 4x. I ask of this because it has been my experience with the iomega the slower I rip the better quality sound I get out the ripped file. When ripping at full speed I can get a lot of high frequency distortion. Especially in cymbal crashes and such.

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Re: First Impression

Post by Fuga » Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:27 pm

kickbackpunk wrote: ... When ripping at full speed I can get a lot of high frequency distortion. Especially in cymbal crashes and such.
Is this when your rip from CD to a lossless format?

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Re: First Impression

Post by kickbackpunk » Sun Dec 21, 2008 1:20 am

Fuga wrote:
kickbackpunk wrote: ... When ripping at full speed I can get a lot of high frequency distortion. Especially in cymbal crashes and such.
Is this when your rip from CD to a lossless format?
No it doesn't matter what format I rip too, this drive is capable of ripping at 48x and at that speed I notice the distortion can set in, not a lot but noticeable. Could be cd jitter who knows...but when I slow it down to under 12x the distortion is gone.

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Re: First Impression

Post by Fuga » Sun Dec 21, 2008 2:59 am

Have you compared checksums of files? Jitter is real but seldom noticeable and not in the way you describe. An app which details jitter errors is XLD.

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Re: First Impression

Post by kickbackpunk » Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:30 am

I have checked checksums and they do not match, I have done some more testing and have determined it to be a faulty drive that has a shaft that is not balanced. Will be switching to a new drive for testing with rip and max so that I have a comparison.

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